| What
does one imagine the spiritual head of a big religious organisation
like Chinmaya Mission to be like? Serious, grim, with a long,
white, flowing beard? Well, there can't be a more inaccurate
description for 49-year-old Swami Tejomayananda, who succeeded
the illustrious founder of Chinmaya Mission, Swami Chinmayananda.
Bubbling with seemingly boundless energy and a sense of humour
that would make Jay Leno marvel, Swami Tejomayananda has behind
this jovial veneer an extraordinarily sharp intellect. This
incredible intellect was obvious by the way he answered questions
put by Jujhar Singh in an exclusive interview aimed at bringing
commonly held doubts to the fore.
Q.
Hinduism believes in one God, one consciousness that pervades
everyone and everything. What is the relationship between
this one God which Hinduism believes in and the thousands
of deities whom Hindus actually worship?
A.
The power of the government is one, right? But there are many
ministers and officers through whom that one power in expressed.
In an ocean there are many waves, but all the waves are just
different manifestations of the one ocean water. In the same
way, there is one God, one infinite power and all the various
deities are simply different manifestations of that one power.
Q.
And how does one reconcile the fact that there are so many
gurus and swamis often suggesting completely different and
seemingly contradictory routes to salvation?
A.
The same disease may be there, but one patient decides to
go to an allopathic doctor, another decides to go to an ayurvedic
doctor, and a third trusts a homoeopath. For some people allopathy
may be beneficial, and for others ayurveda may be more beneficial.
So even though there are different kinds of doctors practising
different systems of medicines who appear to be prescribing
different things, the goal is one and the same -- that the
patient should get cured. In the same way, when you have so
many different kinds of people with different natures and
aptitudes, you need a variety of different methods and spiritual
teachers to cater to them all. But the end goal -- peace and
happiness -- is the same.
Q.
Some sceptics argue that India has seen more religious masters
than any country in the world and yet we have so many social,
economic, political and communal problems. How do you explain
this?
A.
It is because we have so many problems that we need so many
masters! You see those people who have followed the teachings
of the scriptures and the masters have attained nobility and
peace. It is not the scriptures or the masters that will change
the world, but whether people follow them or not.
Medical
science has become so well developed. Yet why is there so
much disease and illness even in the most advanced countries?
Those who live clean lives and take their medicines are fine.
But those people who don't follow any diet and live totally
unnatural lives fall ill. It's not the fault of medical science!
It depends on whether people choose to follow medical science
or not.
Nowadays
many people are just mechanically going to temples, praying,
doing a few rituals -- but the spirit of religion and the
spirit of what religious masters have been saying is not being
followed. And that is why problems are there.
Q.
How relevant can scriptures written thousands of years ago
be in 1999?
A.
The nature and cause of the world and the reality behind it
hasn't changed over the years, you know! Man is also the same
now as he was then in terms of his likes and dislikes, anger,
ambitions, frustrations, love, struggle, etc. And scriptures
talk about man and his struggle. Therefore, they are as relevant
today as they were then. In fact, more relevant today because
man's problems have multiplied and his freedom has decreased.
Q.
What is this freedom? In your lectures, you talk about attaining
freedom, and that, that is the goal of life. Freedom from
what? Are we not free people?
A.
Ha! You think you are free? Think for yourself! You wake up
in the morning and if hot water is not available for your
bath, you become miserable. Then if you don't get the right
cereal for breakfast, you are angry. At office, if the cleaner
has disturbed the papers on your desk, you feel frustrated.
When you get back home if your wife doesn't smile at you,
you get depressed. If she smiles too much, you are worried.
See how delicately poised our happiness is? Where is the freedom?
The
outside world of things and people is perpetually dictating
our happiness and sorrows. We are slaves to the outside world
and to our mind and senses. When you see some delicious chocolate
mousse, are you free!? Don't misunderstand. I'm not saying
don't have chocolate mousse. But do you have the mastery over
your mind so that whenever you want to employ your mind or
senses in a given field, you can do it; and whenever you want
to stop and withdraw, you can? The freedom our scriptures
talk about is freedom from the slavery to our own mind.
Q.
About Chinmaya Mission -- could you briefly describe the objective
of the Mission and the work it does?
A.
Chinmaya Mission was founded in 1952. The Mission's main objective
is to disseminate the knowledge of Vedanta to the people.
Vedanta is the philosophy of the Vedas. It is the science
of life. It enables people to know themselves and to lead
happy and successful lives. Chinmaya Mission has over 250
centres in India and around the world from where the great
knowledge of Vedanta is spread to the people by our swamis
and brahmacharis.
Besides this, we also have 67 schools where nearly 70,000
students are enrolled. In these schools the normal curriculum
is substantiated with value-based education. We also run many
management courses, child and youth development programmes,
hospitals, old age homes, training programmes for village
nurses, income generation schemes for village women and rural
environment projects. We also organise cultural programmes,
research into ancient texts, and have a vibrant audio-visual
division and also a books division that publishes spiritual
books in several Indian languages.
Q.
Finally -- most people are fearful of death. How can one learn
to face death more confidently?
A.
Fear arises only where there is attachment. Death in itself
is actually not so frightening for us. It is death as a cause
of separation from our near and dear things and beings that
is frightening. If death was to say that you can take with
you your wife and kids, house and servants, cars and money
-- I don't think people would then be so afraid of death!
The more we are attached to the outside world of things and
beings, the more fear there will be of death.But if we are
devoted to the Eternal Truth, then there is no question of
any fear.
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